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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #534
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-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Mon, 16 May 94 Volume 94 : Issue 534
-
- Today's Topics:
- ?? Need help with an external short wave radio antenna ??
- A GEnie test
- ARLP019 Propagation de KT7H
- FD Generator
- Final QTH Monument
- HTX-202 problem (3 msgs)
- Luck Hurder ... gone:( Why?
- Man named Loomis invented radio?
- Radio Freq Wanted
- repeater slang/lingo.
- Willful Interference
-
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- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
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-
- Date: 16 May 1994 20:18:10 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.duke.edu!concert!inxs.concert.net!taco.cc.ncsu.edu!salavi@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: ?? Need help with an external short wave radio antenna ??
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I need to gather some info on building an antenna for short
- wave reception? Please excuse my ignorance, I am very new at
- this. Someone told me that All I need to do is connect a very
- long thin wire from an adjacent tree to the house and one from
- the ground and connect them into the adapter that goes into the
- external antenna plug. I have some questions:
-
- 1) How long should this wire be? Is it somehow related to the
- frequencies that I am interested in? What if I am interested in
- more than one?
-
- 2) should the wire be shilded or unshielded?
-
- 3) what should be the gauge of the wire? The thicker the better?
-
- 4) should the wire be the meshed type or a single thread?
-
-
- >>> Please include this message for reference <<<
- ====== S. Alavi [salavi@unity.ncsu.edu] (919)467-7909 (H) ========
- (919)856-3817 (W)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 16:40:11 -0400
- From: udel!ssnet.com!hal.spasci.com!dave@cs.rochester.edu
- Subject: A GEnie test
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Just trying to see if this stuff is actually leaving GEnie. WA2VCI WB2BFB.
-
- ------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 21:57:21 MDT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: ARLP019 Propagation de KT7H
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP019
- ARLP019 Propagation de KT7H
-
- ZCZC AP33
- QST de W1AW
- Propagation Forecast Bulletin 19 ARLP019
- >From Tad Cook, KT7H
- Seattle, WA May 13, 1994
- To all radio amateurs
-
- SB PROP ARL ARLP019
- ARLP019 Propagation de KT7H
-
- Solar activity has been very low, with geomagnetic conditions from
- unsettled to active. Solar flux bottomed out at 73, and is now
- climbing toward a probable peak around 105 centered on May 25 or 26.
- Look for conditions to remain unsettled, with recurring coronal
- holes returning to produce stormy conditions again after May 28.
-
- For the CQ-M Contest this weekend look for moderately unsettled
- conditions, with flux around 85.
-
- Sunspot Numbers from May 5 through 11 were 15, 45, 34, 44, 16, 2 and
- 38, with a mean of 31.2. 10.7 cm flux was 73, 74, 73.8, 74.4, 77.3,
- 80 and 81.9, with a mean of 76.3.
-
- The path projection for this week is from Benton, Kentucky, near
- Paducha, to Ukraine.
-
- 80 meters should be open briefly around 0130z. Check 40 meters from
- 0030 to 0330, and 30 meters from 2300 to 0430. 20 meters should
- be best from 2000 to 2300. 17 meters does not look promising, but
- on some days a check around 2000 to 2130 may prove fruitful. 10,
- 12 and 15 meters do not look good at this time.
- NNNN
- /EX
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 16 May 1994 20:05:23 GMT
- From: tymix.Tymnet.COM!niagara!flanagan@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: FD Generator
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- This may not be the best newsgroup for this, but I'm sure I'll be
- told where to go if it's not. :-)
-
- I am about to purchase a gasoline-powered AC generator for Field
- Day (and similar) uses. I went to the local Supply One (super
- hardware store) and they had Coleman, Yamaha and Makita generators.
- The price of 5KW units varied from $500 to $1500. Interestingly
- enough, there were no Hondas in sight, even though I've seen more
- of them in the field than just about any other kind.
-
- My question is, for FD use, with no need for fancy stuff like
- autostart or load switching, what is the preferred brand of AC
- generator? Where does one go for the best deal on one?
-
- Thanks for any and all help.
-
- 73, Dick
- --
- Dick Flanagan, W6OLD w6old@n6qmy.#nocal.ca.usa.na
- dick@libelle.com CIS:73672,751 GEnie:FLANAGAN
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 16 May 94 19:13:47 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!news1.digex.net!access1!ronald@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- Subject: Final QTH Monument
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Tired of those old fashioned headstones? Want something special for your
- final resting place? What to take your call sign with you? How about a
- Marble HAM Headstone with your call sign tastefully engraved; possibility
- exists to have that antenna you always wanted but never could erect
- etched permanently along with your call sign on the same headstone.
- Antennas to scale. A special chip is available to emit your call sign and
- a CQ on the date of your demise, or date you were first licensed. If you
- are within several years of occupying your final resting please consider
- a HAM Headstone. If you should upgrade prior to death there will be an
- extra charge for reconfiguration. Remember you can take it all with you.
- Replies by E Mail. Advance payment in full required. Special discount for
- Ham couples (K4ADL take note) who will be residing together
- permanently.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 19:50:34 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!convex!darwin.sura.net!coil!emerald.nist.gov!proctor@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: HTX-202 problem
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hello,
-
- I have a problem with my RS HTX-202 which I think is related to the
- power save feature. I set the time-slice for the power saver to 1/4 sec
- and turned on "SAVE". Since then, quite often, the receiver will turn on
- right in the middle of an ongoing qso. This happens even while listening
- to a local repeater which is S9+30 and the squelch is set just above the
- background noise (even an S1 signal will open the squelch). This has also
- happened while I was operating simplex. It appears that the receiver does
- not always "wake up" when a signal is present.
-
- I have recently turned off the save feature, and the problem seems to have
- gone away, but I need more time to say that the problem is gone for sure.
-
- Has anyone else had this problem? If it continues to work with save disabled,
- I will send it back for repair.
-
- 73 - Jim
-
- --
- James E. Proctor | proctor@onyx.nist.gov | National Inst. of Stand. & Tech.
- My opinions are my own. I have the receipt to prove it.
- "Waiter, this food has snails in it!" - Lucy Ricardo in French Resturant
- "I feel like roadkill on the Information Superhighway!" - Doug Marlette
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 16 May 94 19:15:10 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!convex!convex.com!horak@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- Subject: HTX-202 problem
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In <940516145034@emerald.nist.gov> proctor@news-reader.nist.gov (James Proctor) writes:
-
- >I have a problem with my RS HTX-202 which I think is related to the
- >power save feature. I set the time-slice for the power saver to 1/4 sec
- >and turned on "SAVE". Since then, quite often, the receiver will turn on
- >right in the middle of an ongoing qso. This happens even while listening
- >to a local repeater which is S9+30 and the squelch is set just above the
- >background noise (even an S1 signal will open the squelch). This has also
- >happened while I was operating simplex. It appears that the receiver does
- >not always "wake up" when a signal is present.
-
- >I have recently turned off the save feature, and the problem seems to have
- >gone away, but I need more time to say that the problem is gone for sure.
-
- >Has anyone else had this problem? If it continues to work with save disabled,
- >I will send it back for repair.
-
- This *problem* is normal operation. The radio is asleep 3/4 of the time
- so if a QSO starts up while the unit is asleep, you miss part of it. My
- Alinco DJ560 does it too. It's normal. That's how the battery life is
- extended. It's almost like the radio is off for those few moments the
- radio is in battery save mode. Don't send the radio back for repair!
- If a signal is present, it does not somehow *wake up* the radio. The
- radio merely wakes up every so often to see if a signal is there. If it
- is, it stays on; if not, it dozes off again.
-
-
- David N5OFQ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 21:18:23 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!darwin.sura.net!coil!emerald.nist.gov!proctor@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: HTX-202 problem
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <horak.769115710@convex.com> horak@convex.com (David Horak) writes:
-
- -> In <940516145034@emerald.nist.gov> proctor@news-reader.nist.gov (James Proctor) writes:
- ->
- -> >I have a problem with my RS HTX-202 which I think is related to the
- -> >power save feature. I set the time-slice for the power saver to 1/4 sec
- -> >and turned on "SAVE". Since then, quite often, the receiver will turn on
- -> >right in the middle of an ongoing qso. This happens even while listening
- -> >to a local repeater which is S9+30 and the squelch is set just above the
- -> >background noise (even an S1 signal will open the squelch). This has also
- -> >happened while I was operating simplex. It appears that the receiver does
- -> >not always "wake up" when a signal is present.
- ->
- -> >I have recently turned off the save feature, and the problem seems to have
- -> >gone away, but I need more time to say that the problem is gone for sure.
- ->
- -> >Has anyone else had this problem? If it continues to work with save disabled,
- -> >I will send it back for repair.
- ->
- -> This *problem* is normal operation. The radio is asleep 3/4 of the time
- -> so if a QSO starts up while the unit is asleep, you miss part of it. My
- -> Alinco DJ560 does it too. It's normal. That's how the battery life is
- -> extended. It's almost like the radio is off for those few moments the
- -> radio is in battery save mode. Don't send the radio back for repair!
- -> If a signal is present, it does not somehow *wake up* the radio. The
- -> radio merely wakes up every so often to see if a signal is there. If it
- -> is, it stays on; if not, it dozes off again.
- ->
- ->
- -> David N5OFQ
-
- No, I'm not talking about missing the first 3/4 second of a qso. Please
- give me a little bit of credit! :-) I'm talking about the receiver suddenly
- turning on into a qso that has obviously been going on for some time (just
- by the content of the conversation).
-
- Another example, I was working a public service net a while back. The net
- control station was no more than 100 yards from me, and the other stations
- were no more than several hundred yards away. After 10 minutes of dead
- silence, I keyed the mic, gave a short report, and when I let go of the PTT,
- net control said, "Where have you been? I've called you about 6 times and
- so-and-so called you several times." I looked at the S-meter, and he was
- S9+30. The same thing happened later in the net. Once, just to see, I hit
- the PTT very quickly, and sure enough, the receiver turned on and someone
- else was in the middle of a transmission. I turned off the power save feature
- and have had no further such occurances.
-
- 73 - Jim
- --
- James E. Proctor | proctor@onyx.nist.gov | National Inst. of Stand. & Tech.
- My opinions are my own. I have the receipt to prove it.
- "Waiter, this food has snails in it!" - Lucy Ricardo in French Resturant
- "I feel like roadkill on the Information Superhighway!" - Doug Marlette
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 01:15:57 GMT
- From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
- Subject: Luck Hurder ... gone:( Why?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1994May11.131758.9021@cs.brown.edu> md@maxcy2.maxcy.brown.edu (Michael P. Deignan) writes:
- >
- >The League may claim to be a non-profit firm, but in fact it is a for-profit
- >publishing house. The sooner people start to realize this they will be
- >better off.
-
- I thought `non-profit' meant that at the end of the year an organization's
- income and expenses were equal, i.e., they broke even.
-
- >If you have any doubt, open any issue of QST and count the number of ARRL
- >publications. Books, study materials, code tapes, license videotapes, the
- >list is endless.
-
- I wonder how much it costs to produce all the above. Do you want them to
- just give these items away free?
-
- You've been in academics Mike so you certainly know how much textbooks cost
- today - now compare those costs to the prices the ARRL is charging for their
- books (their QRP NOTEBOOK: $5 - pretty cheap!).
-
- >The League may be "non-profit" from the viewpoint of the IRS, but its
- >certainly not non-profit from the viewpoint of the staff members who have
- >made a career out of living off your membership fee to the League. Take a
- >look over the years in the various issues of QST. Examine the names of the
- >staff members. Look familiar? Seemingly never change? How many years has
- >K1ZZ made a living off your membership dollars? Do you enjoy paying for his
- >house, car, and vacation each year?
-
- A non-profit organization's expenses include employee salaries. How those
- employees spend their salaries is their own business.
-
- I'm sure the taxpayers of the State of Hawaii (they pay my salary, and this
- university is a non-profit corporation) don't mind that I've taken some of my
- earnings and bought a sailboat to live on.
-
- Jeff NH6IL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 16 May 1994 18:46:32 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uxa.cso.uiuc.edu!btbg1194@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Man named Loomis invented radio?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Newsgroups: uiuc.org.synton
- Subject: Somebody named Loomis invented radio?
- Date: 1 May 1994 02:01:51 GMT
- Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
-
- I read something recently that a man named Loomis might have
- "invented" radio in the late 1800's before Marconi & Hertz et al.
-
- This might be an ancestor of the person for whom the University of
- Illinois physics department "Loomis Lab" is named.
-
- Does anybody else know more about this?
-
- kb8cne, Brad
-
- --
- Brad Banko; Univ of Illinois; b-banko@uiuc.edu
- As much as our network and systems are loaded, the US Mail is often faster. :-)
- See one. Do one. Teach one. 73 de kb8cne @ n9lnq.il
- --
- Brad Banko; Univ of Illinois; b-banko@uiuc.edu
- As much as our network and systems are loaded, the US Mail is often faster. :-)
- See one. Do one. Teach one. 73 de kb8cne @ n9lnq.il
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 16 May 1994 19:49:58 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!panix!ddsw1!news.cic.net!condor.ic.net!iunet!geraldg@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Radio Freq Wanted
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I am looking for the frequencies for NASCAR/ Winston Cup and BGN,
- CART/Indy Car, and SCCA TransAm crew radios. Lists would be nice or
- locations where I can grab them. Please E-mail me as I do not read this
- group very often.
- TIA
- --
- _____________________________________________________________________________
- Gerald Gillis Michigan Automotive Research Corp
- Email: geraldg@ic.net -My opinions are my own * period-
- gerald.gillis@hal9k.com bring back the HP-15C!!
- _________________________________________Teach your children well____________
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 20:30:28 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.ess.harris.com!news@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: repeater slang/lingo.
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1994May12.224801.16556@newsgate.sps.mot.com>, markm@bigfoot.sps.mot.com (Mark Monninger) says:
- >
- >In article <1994May12.160217.9245@rsg1.er.usgs.gov> bodoh@dgg.cr.usgs.gov (Tom
- >Bodoh) writes:
- >>
- >> -> What's the story with the guys that end with 'Hi Hi' or is it just around
- >> -> here?
- >> ->
- >HI is to CW what a smiley ;-) is to the net. Using it on voice modes is just
- >another instance of CW'ism that have crept into voice users' vocabularies. I'm
- >not sure when or where it originated. It's used here too. I can see using some
- >Q signals on voice once in a while, but saying hi,hi instead of just laughing
- >seems really dumb. Oh well...
-
- Well, what I do on voice contacts is say, "colon close parenthesis" or sometimes
- "semicolon dash close parentheses" [hi h..........oops di di di dit di...no....
- ha ha ha... I'm so confused]
-
- Harv
- WB4NPL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 00:49:11 GMT
- From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
- Subject: Willful Interference
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <Anthony_Pelliccio-100594102527@138.16.64.52> Anthony_Pelliccio@brown.edu (Tony Pelliccio) writes:
- >
- >If our area is any indication, not much can be done with this guy. Several
- >people have DF'd right to the source, a couple of people have obtained
- >positive identification via spectrum analysis and guess what... local OO's
- >will NOT write up a pink-slip. Then at the radio club meeting the issue was
- >poo-poo'ed and bitched about. One thing for sure, this particular club is
- >so steeped in red-tape it's not funny.
-
- As long as your evidence is so solid why not go public? Send the details
- to your local newspaper and see if they write up a story, or at least
- send a letter to the editor. As long as you avoid direct accusations
- and instead use phrases such as ``...our evidence shows that the
- transmissions came from the residence of <whomever> at <whatever
- address>...'' you shouldn't encounter any legal problems; detail how
- the evidence was gathered, and mention the lack of action from the FCC.
-
- At the very least let the offending operator know that you and many,
- many, many others know (safety in numbers!) of his illegal operations;
- maybe even send him a copy of Part 97 and list the dollar amounts of
- the fines he could receive. Advise him that your findings have been
- turned over to the federal government.
-
- Others will say to avoid any contact with him but I've found that
- direct contact is a big motivating factor in the cessation of these
- kinds of activities.
-
- Jeff NH6IL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 20:53:25 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!att-in!cbnewsc!k9jma@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2qddq5$lbg@hopper.acm.org>, <4ewwLc1w165w@voxbox.norden1.com>, <1994May13.145055.1@ttd.teradyne.com>bne
- Subject : Re: Was this a bad idea?
-
- In article <1994May13.145055.1@ttd.teradyne.com> rice@ttd.teradyne.com (John Rice) writes:
- >> smithson@ACM.ORG writes:
- >>
- >>> In article <2q9tks$npn@illuminati.io.com>, hoagy@illuminati.io.com (Sir Hoagy
- >>> >
- >>> >"This is unlicensed Matthew T. Rupert. I've got a bad accident
- >>> > out here at <such and such>. Need ambulance and emergency response.
- >>> > Will stand by and repeat"
- >>> >
- >>> >Since I was unlicensed, was it illegal for me to use my radio
- >>> >on an amateur frequency for this situation?
- >>> >
- >>> It was technically illegal, but I do believe there are provisions in the law
- >>> to accomodate 'good samaritan' actions.
- >>
- >> No, it was NOT technically illegal! The Communications Act
- >> specifically states <paraphrased> that in the event of threats
- >> to human health or safety or desctruction of property anything
- >> reasonable goes.
- >>
- >
- >Tell that to the Ham in California who had his equipment confiscated (with the
- >tacit approval of the FCC) when he used a 2M HT on a Public Safety frequency
- >to call in Emergency Medical assistance, after other methods of communications
- >failed (ham, Cell Phone).
- >
- A similar case arises in aviation. The FAA rules say (paraphrased) that the
- pilot in command is the final authority as to the safe operation of the
- aircraft, and that the pilot in command my deviate from any rule to the
- extent necessary to meet an emergency. However, these statements don't
- operate to prevent enforcement of the same or other rules after the pilot
- has exercised this "authority" in case of an emergency. For example, it is
- a separate violation of a rule against "careless or reckless" operation to
- allow oneself to get into a situation where the emergency "authority" must
- be exercised.
-
- So, there's a kind of Catch-22 situation in that the law or rule may say
- you can break other rules in some circumstances - but it doesn't say that
- the rule against breaking rules can't or won't be enforced.
-
- Better not tempt the enforcers - unless it really will save _your_ life.
- --
- Ed Schaefer K9JMA ham radio N97178 aviation
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 16 May 94 21:20:24 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!portal.austin.ibm.com!awdprime.austin.ibm.com!blood@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <1994May11.083458.812@pacs.sunbelt.net>, <2qqt3k$bu@paperboy.gsfc.nasa.gov>,<CpnMEx.Kov@cbnewsc.cb.att.com>, <1994May16.141525.863@pacs.sunbelt.net>
- Subject : Re: HAM RADIO RUDENESS
-
-
- Ive decided to quit saving for a HF rig after following this discussion.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 16 May 1994 21:52:38 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!kabuki.EECS.Berkeley.EDU!kennish@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <linleyCpKosM.6qE@netcom.com>, <2r5r5c$qa5@crl2.crl.com>, <Cpw8x7.2Ar@ryn.mro.dec.com>
- Subject : Re: Best AA NiCads? (NiCd batteries in general)
-
- People have written:
- >>
- >>The RS batteries can NOT be quick charged under any circumstances. I would
- >>also consider the Millenium batteries. They are ordinary NiCa batteries, but
- >>made to very high tolerance specs. They can be quick charged in Millenium's
- >>charger in about 2.5 hours. The charger then keeps them trickle charged for
- >>as long as you leave them in there. While they have the same AH rating as
- >>most nicads, I find they last 30% to 40% longer then ordinary nicads in
- >>LOW drain applications (like powering a scanner). They don't seem to do
- >>better then others in high drain apps (transmitting for example), but then
- >>they can be re-charged much faster. They are a bit more expensive, but I
- >>would at least consider them. I've been using them for a couple of years
- >>in my scanner, and they are great...
-
- Hmm.....
-
- I have yet to see a Ni-Cd battery that CANNOT be quick (1 hr)
- charged. The issue is not charging, but overcharging. Batteries
- differ greatly in their ability to withstand abuse due to
- overcharge. I bet those RS cells can be quick charged in 1 hour,
- but I wouldn't overcharge them one bit, since they would probably
- vent or explode. Charge control is the key to battery management.
-
- Let us review once again why Ni-Cd batteries behave this way. Ni-Cd
- batteries take charging current very easily -- too easily for their
- own good. Hence the need for constant current charging rather than
- constant voltage, as they would take too much current and destroy
- the charger or themselves due to the huge currents. There are other
- reasons for constant current which I will get to in a second.
-
- The positive material is nickelic (Ni+3 or Ni+4) hydroxide when charged,
- and nickelous hydroxide when discharged (Ni+2). The negative plate
- is cadmium metal when charged and cadmium hydroxide when discharged.
-
- As long as there is uncharged material left on the plates (i.e. nickelous
- hydroxide and/or cadmium hydroxide), the charging current goes to
- work and produces the nickelic hydroxide or cadmium metal as desired.
-
- When the cell reaches full capacity, the charging current has to do some work.
- Since the plates are fully charged, the work goes to split water,
- a component of the electrolyte. Now, splitting water involves
- producing hydrogen and oxygen. This is bad, since this is explosive
- and keeping it in a sealed cell (even with vents) is NOT good. So,
- the battery manufactuers got smart....
-
- The negative plate is bigger (electrochemically) than the positive electrode,
- and when manufactured, is slightly discharged. This means that the positive
- plate is reaches full charge first, and generates oxygen gas. This oxygen
- gas then migrates across the separator to the cadmium negative plate,
- and reduces it, forming cadmium hydroxide, which keeps the negative
- plate from reaching full charge. Under these conditions, the
- cell can remain on charge ad naseum. The bottleneck is the diffusion
- of the oxygen from the positive to the negative plate.
-
- Under high currents, so much oxygen is produced at the positive plate that
- all of it cannot diffuse across to the negative plate. This is bad
- for several reasons. First, there is pressure build up. Second, since
- there is a limited amount of oxygen diffusing across, the amount of
- cadmium hydroxide being produced at the negative plate is limited. So,
- some of the current actually goes to convert the "excess" cadmium
- hydroxide to cadmium. When this happens, hydrogen is produced at
- the negative electrode. Pressure builds up and the cell vents. Once
- that happens, you are effectively losing water from the cell and the
- cell is permanently damaged. How badly depends on how much water you
- lose.
-
- Battery manufacturers are doing all kinds of tricks to outsmart
- the average user to prevent him/her from killing their cells. Newer
- fast charge cells use activated carbon to act as an oxygen sponge
- to prevent high pressures from building up and to facilitate diffusion
- of oxygen to the negative electrode. The cost of this is that
- the carbon takes space, and that means less active material. So,
- for a given technology, rapid charge cells of this type will have
- a lower Ah capacity than other cells.
-
- Gas management is the key to withstanding overcharge. The better
- the ability to absorb the oxygen and deliver it to the negative
- plate, the more overcharge current it can handle. Of course,
- the generation and recombination of oxygen through the overcharge
- current creates heat, which is bad. You will note that Ni-Cd
- cells remain cool, even with high charge currents, and then
- quickly get hot as full charge is attained. If your cells are hot,
- then you have overcharged them -- slap yourself in the wrist.
-
- In a quest to increase the Ah capacity of the cells, manufacturers
- are using sponge or foam electrodes. You get 20% more capacity
- out of these cells than regular sintered plate, but the cost is
- higher internal resistance. They do not perform well under high
- drain (i.e. transmitting) conditions. I believe that the Millenium
- cells are of this type. This would explain the apparent higher capacity
- under low drain conditions. The new Panasonic 900 mAh and the soon
- to be announced 950 mAh AA cell from Sanyo are of this type.
-
- For best high drain performance, stick with the sintered plate. The
- capacity champ in this category is the Sanyo KR-800 AA cell, 800 mAh.
-
- Stay away from hi-temp cells, unless you really have hi-temp, as the
- electrolyte is NaOH and has a higher resistance, again leading to poor
- high drain performance.
-
- Memory effect:
-
- Does it exist? YES.
- Is it easy to reproduce? NO.
-
- Whenever Ni-Cds don't perform up to snuff, the excuse is "memory effect."
-
- Originally memory effect was seen in spacecraft batteries subjected to
- a repeated discharge/charge cycle that was a fixed percentage of
- total capacity. After many cycles, when called upon to provide the
- full capacity, the battery failed to do so.
-
- Memory can be attributed to changes in the negative or cadmium
- plate. Recall that charging involves converting Cd(0H)2 to Cd metal.
- Ordinarily, and under moderate charging currents, the cadmium that
- is deposited is microcrystalline (i.e. very small crystals). Now,
- metallurgical thermodynamics states that grain boundaries are high
- energy regions, and given time, the tendency of metals is for
- the grains to coalesce and form larger crystals. This is bad
- for the battery since it makes the cadmium harder to dissolve to
- produce the discharge current. Hence you get "reduced capacity" or
- more precisely, a voltage depression due to increased resistance.
-
- The trick to avoiding memory is avoiding forming large crystal
- cadmium. Very slow charging is bad, as slow growth aids large
- crystal growth (recall growing rock candy). High temperatures are
- bad, since the nucleation and growth of crystals is exponentially
- driven by temperature. The problem is that given time, you will
- get growth of cadmium crystals, and thus, you need to reform the material.
-
- This does NOT mean that you need to cycle your battery each time you
- use it. This does more harm than good, and unless you do it on a per
- cell basis, you risk reversing the cells and that really kills them.
- Perhaps once in a while, use your pack until it is 90% discharged,
- or do a cell voltage of 1.0V under light load. Here, about 95% of
- the cells capacity is used, and for all intensive purposes, is
- discharged. At this point, recharge it and that's it.
-
- The more common "memory effect" isn't memory at all, but voltage
- depression caused by overcharging. Positive plate electrochemistry
- is very complicated, but overcharging changes the crystal structure
- of the nickelic hydroxide from beta-Nickelic Hydroxide to gamma-Nickelic
- hydroxide. The electrochemical potential of the gamma form is
- about 40 to 50 mV less than the beta form. This means that you get
- a lower discharge voltage. In a six cell (7.2v) pack, this means
- a loss of 300 mV. Trick? Don't overcharge. Leaving cells on a
- trickle charger encourages formation of gamma NiOH. Expect your
- cells to discharge at a lower voltage.
-
- Summary:
-
- DON'T deliberately discharge your batteries to avoid memory
- DO let your cells discharge to 1.0V/cell on occasion through normal use.
- DON'T leave your cells on tricke charge for long times, unless you can
- tolerate voltage depression.
- DO protect your cells from high temperature both in charging and storage.
- DON'T overcharge your cells. Use a good charging technique.
- DO choose your cells wisely. Sponge/foam plates will not tolerate high
- discharge currents as well as sintered plate.
-
-
- Take care of your cells, and they will take care of you. I have
- a set of cells from 1981 that are still working. Sintered plate,
- 450 mAh old technology -- rapid charged used a delta-V technique.
-
- Contributing to the mythology of Ni-Cds,
-
- Ken
-
- p.s. NiMH cells can exhibit memory too, for much of the same
- reasons as above....(substitute hydride for cadmium). You will
- note less touting of memory-free operation of NiMH cells in the
- the future as more experience is gained.
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